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house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >> also what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life is a gift from god. even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape it is something god intended to happen. >> mourdock's popularity plummeted after that. now he's trying to pay down campaign debt. guess who's getting blamed for his election loss in the fund raising e-mail? quote, republicans all over the country were forced to accept defeat rather than celebrate victory. in our case we found ourselves caught in the liberal media cross hairs. never has indiana seen a more obvious example of media bias by reporters more interested in defeating conservatives than reporter the news. rnc chair reince priebus had him in mind
the democratic process. the republican numbers went down much more than barack obama's did last year. i think they have to be careful about what they are doing here. >> i think the reason simon doesn't like it is because it gives the republicans leverage to force the president to deal with the debt. the president has as much chance of succeeding as you have of getting john bolton to cry on your show. megyn: i think i can do it. a challenge? >> i bet you can. in the last 27 years, every significant debt reduction bill that passed starting with graham rosen has been linked to a debt limit increase. this is the only tool in washington that forces both sides to do something about the debt and spendersing. so republicans aren't going to give this up because it's the only tool they have in this political situation to stop the president from going forward. and the reality is last year speaker boehner set an important resident. it's called the boehner rule. one dollar in spending increase for one dollar for debt limit increase. you balance the budge net 10 years without raising taxes. the republicans
opinion supports his position, and public opinion will support obama over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and making sure that tax rates on wealthiest go up is a big part of that deal. >> he ran on half of tax increases proposing, he ran on a planned approach, i'm sorry this is politics, and he should admit it. lou: another thing that bears admission that this president saying it was not about economics, to have that right to work law go into effect in michigan, he said it was about politics, i tried to demonstrate how it is both and about power, right-to-work looks to be a very serious challenge to democratic power, with 24 right-to-work states. >> absolutely. a big nasda challenge. where does the money come from if you don't have unions giving it to you. >> indiana, gained 14,000 manufacturing jobs, this is politics, it also about getting jobs back, otherwise -- -- lou: we'll have to leave it there thank you very much. >> thank
-on-one negotiation with president obama the rank and file republicans rejected boehner's deal. it's hard to see how boehner will get a different outcome this time around. eric cantor looking right over his shoulder. you could make the argument that cantor is the big player who is not in the room. because if boehner does a deal with the president and goes back and tries to get the republicans to vote for it in the house and cantor says no, where are we? the president, calm, cool and collected and remembering what this election is all about. get your cell phones out. tonight's question. the president, calm, cool and collected and remembering what this election is all about. get your cell phones out. tonight's question. will republicans punish e speaker boehner for trying to work with the president? text a for yes, b to no to 622639. we'll bring the results later on in the show. joining me tonight is congressman emanuel cleaver from missouri. great to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> i'd like to talk about the congressional black caucus if i could. they have been very, very strong about do
are were the right ideas. >> what can republicans learn from the obama campaign? >> whoever has the high ground on technology is going to win both warfare and politics and we can't allow that to happen again. one lesson is you want to make sure from a perspective you are communicating your message to people and ensuring not only they are supporters but also voters. >> how do you regain the technological high ground? >> investing in it. it's there and can be done. the technology of 2012 was amazing and 2016 is indescribable. has to be invested in and priority. the chairman inherited a party that had financial problems and got the party out of a financial hole which didn't create a lot of time and space. part of what we need to do. you need to have a marketing department but you need to have a good production department. you need to have good policy that you are selling and state of the art methods. >> you personally tweet? >> i try to. but no one has ever sent a tweet on my behalf. i control my own twitter feed because it is authentic and it is about hip-hop and sports. >> you are a dolph
obama. so republicans are trying to destroy unions in order to destroy the democratic party. you think it will work? 1-866-55-press. and you know what gets me? there's a much cheaper way and a much more direct way for republicans to get some of that labor support that usually goes to democrats if republicans would just vote for a living wage. if she would vote for work and families. if they would vote for the jobs bills instead of killing them all. if they would vote to extend unemployment insurance every time instead of opposing it. if they would just vote for what working families need, hell, unions would support republicans. they don't care. they support politicians who support them. so we can't let this happen in michigan. we're not going to let this happen in michigan. we're going to join all of the unions our union brothers and sisters in fighting back against this. peter, how can people get the word in because rick schneider says he'll sign this. we have to change his mind and tell him no, you cannot si
. next up, sarah on the republican line. caller: i think president obama is blackmailing the congress. he thinks since he won the election, he should get his own way. he wins and the taxes on everybody. a one term president was not suggested until president obama said "elections have consequences, and i won the." it was after that that the statement was made. they have roadbed dead horse for miles and miles and miles and it is getting bad. what that meant was it was his way or no way. that is why people said they were working towards a one-term president for him. obama is trying to wreck the economy so he can set up his socialist and communist government and agenda and people will be weak enough they will accept it. host: sarah from west virginia. let's of columns in the paper today. here is one from "the washington times." i want to take you to "the washington post." i want to go to janet from massachusetts on the democratic line. caller: good morning. how are you? i just wanted to say i remember when the bush gave us all $250 per adult for our tax cuts. you add those up and it becomes q
's a shame that republicans are playing into mr. obama's hands negotiating in public among themselves prematurely giving up on the tax issue and undermining house speaker john boehner in the process. but in "the weekly standard" bill kristol hit back at "the journal" take on this saying it would be great if "the journal" editors had a better idea what republicans could do. they don't. if the house republicans follow the editors over the cliff, the only effect, i'm afraid, will be to turn a manageable reret in december into a panicked strategic route in january. "the new york times" points out that even if republicans agree to the president's key demand that the top tax rates return to the clinton era level, it would only be a quarter of the $1.6 trillion the white house is demanding leaving battles and limits on deductions and exemptions and estate and gift taxes all for another day. then there are other political minefields of entitlement cuts in spending. by the way, by choosing to make his fiscal cliff pitch in michigan, the president is stepping into the fierce battle over worker
-bowles as the frame of reference. the question is not which plan, republican of democratic, is better. it is which plan is closer to simpson-bowles and why. host: here is "the hill" newspaper. obama-friendly business group given greater access to the white house. guest: well, first of all we -- what we do is bring business leaders from around the country to brief the president and economic team on everything from health care reform to immigration reform. the fiscal cliff, intellectual property protection. and the business leaders are speaking for themselves. generally speaking, business leaders are centrist, the data driven, results oriented, and they are looking for compromise in washington. is it a pro-obama group, protest republican group? it is really its own group and the to the people speak for themselves. host: who are some of the names people might recognize, the ceo's of which companies? guest: the efforts the white house has made this year is much larger and much more effective than it was last year. they are bringing in more people with business ford but with a lot of other organization
tobin live in lansing. thank you. president obama is vehemently against the michigan right to work law. he spoke against it yesterday near detroit. earlier today, the republicans accused the president of deliberately delaying talks to get the country office call cliff. late this afternoon, word of a new offer from the president. an g.o.p. counter offer. we have been told the president and the house speaker boehner spoke on the phone moments ago. chief white house correspondenthead entry has the update. good evening. is that promising? >> some promising signs tonight. i confirmed what you mention about the phone call today. late today between the president and the speaker. that followed what i'm told by the senior officials of what is a better than has been reported face to face meeting on sunday when the president and speaker got together for the hush-hush meeting here that it went better. on monday, the president put a new offer on the table to lower the tax increase from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion. then the speaker late today put a counter offer on the table so in profit making p
deal is reached, the white house saying that president obama met with republican house speaker boehner on ways to overcome their differences. steve is live for us in washington, with more on this. steve? >>reporter: the house speaker went for a white house for a one-on-one chat, the first time they have sat down without other leaders and it could represent an important step toward avoiding the fiscal cliff. the last time the 39 and the speaker met was with other members of congress november 15. they talked wednesday last week but that was a conversation by telephone. now they have sat down face to face. this top level meeting is important in any negotiating process in washington, dc. the fact they met on a sunday underscores the urgency. the white house confirmed the talks were held to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff and lines of communication remain open. the white house beating is the same day republicans appeared to be moving closer to the president's position on raising taxes for the wealthy. a senator appeared on fox news sunday along with a democrat schumer. >> the gr
. is the republicans at risk of becoming the party of the rich while president obama and the democrats stake the claim as the party of the middle class? let's talk. we have cnbc contributor howard dean, former vermont governor and democratic presidential candidate. and we welcome back katie paveli pavelich, author and news editor for townhall.com. listen to this poll from the latest cnbc all american survey. listen to this. americans are split over who is more to blame, 21% blame obama and the democrats. 23% blame the gop. and 52% blame both sides equally. now, i think that 52% is because howard dean wants to tax everyone. howard, defend your position. you may be single handedly bailing out the republican party by wanting to tax the middle class and everybody else. >> i'm just telling the truth, larry. i think senator paul is a fine person but his economic theory is whack job stuff. the idea -- we've already had big tax cuts. that's why we have the deficit we have. the truth is, if you want to balance the budget, which i do, you have to have increased revenues and you have significant spending cuts. a
years under president obama. here's what we know. not from democrats or republicans, but from the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan group that says this. if we go over the cliff, what secretary geithner said obama is willing to do, if we go over, we can expect to lose 1 .$8 million. if we do what the president wants, which is to raise taxes on the small businesses, we will lose 700,000 jobs. or if we do what republicans want to do, keep tax rates where they are, we lose zero jobs. so your point is go over the cliff and lose $1.8 million, do what the president wants and lose 700,000 jobs or do what the republicans want and lose zero jobs. our goal is trying to get closest to losing no jobs. >> but the problem is you are not get to go the zero jobs promise. you don't have the numbers. that's your problem. you don't have the numbers or the momentum. how are you going to turn that around? >> well, you are right. and to pat's point earlier in your program, look, i wish we controlled the house, the senate and the white house. i wish the republicans had complete control beca
, this desire for compromise. both sides, republican, democrat, independent, those who voted for obama, those who voted for governor romney, want to see compromise. what they define as an acceptable compromise is very different, but this notion that they want to see their leadership working together is something that is a strong point of view that is held right now, and that creates obviously opportunity to treaties. trades complicated waters to navigate. the single highest priority on the to the list is the budget deficit and debt. people talk about this being a problem that they want to see addressed. they are concerned about how that creates an economic environment that puts them at risk. they immediately move -- if that is table stakes in such terms of taking care of the basis of issues -- in a move to things that have much more meaning to them that focus around jobs, wage growth, getting more disposable income into their household. you'd see on one level at the abstract level, debt, deficits, fiscal cliff, and then a transition into the to do list, which is where they would like to see e
will be -- the obama tax cuts will replace the bush tax cuts. >> do you think bainer is getting hoodwinked on this? >> it's hard for me to see how the republicans emerge from this well. they are turning the retreat they began november 6th into a republican route i think right now because in their hearts they don't believe what they are doing is right. >> so what do they do? >> it's like a doctor coming in and saying, look, you can give this kidney more heroin, it will kill him. that's what is hurting them and the other doctors come in and say we have to steady and put him on a diet of a little more of this stuff and the other doctor said, no, i'm not going to help you out, i'm not doing that. >> that's what the conservatives in the house are saying to boehner we are going the wrong way. >> then you go off the cliff and go exactly what you said. >> it would be a terrible blow. what the republicans should have done in the beginning is mr. president what do we agree on? we agree on cuts. that's the only thing they agree on. they disagree on tax. why would you get into an argument on tacks and not wor
reports in some places said only obama voters in this polling place. it wasn't just a republican issue. we had issues from democratic workers. so we do need to encourage more people to be poll workers but we need to be careful that the poll worker does not become a bipartisan strategist. >> i'm sorry to butt in. have a volunteer who could theoretically work for them for 12 hours on election day or work at a polling location. i've seen it go both ways each naomi field staffer but i encourage those people to put it in there. it's interesting that, again, -- i was surprised when i learned that just needed to be more -- i say this knowing it probably can't be changed but i think 6200 precincts in florida, 6300 polling locations, open for 12 hours multiple days and sometimes these people get 40 or $50, so if you've do that you're truly serving your country because sitting in those places in october is not a fun thing to do. so anything to direct more resources towards that. campaigns are going to split. some of them are going to let their people go, some aren't. >> thank you. [inaudible convers
allow that, right? so that is republican leverage, as they see it. unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out. the concern that boehner will cut a deal that he can't actually deliver, or at the last minute he'll back off a deal because he won't have the votes. the white house, by the way, they don't think the debt ceiling is republican leverage. when you talk to them, they are all steel right now on that subject. their position is simple, and they deliver it in the tone of voice bruce willis reserves for talking to terrorists. they are not negotiating. not on that. if republicans go over the cliff and try to open up talks for raising the debt ceiling, the white house says they will not
worry mr. obama might cave to republicans, their biggest fear, the president will do what he considered in 2011, raise the eligibility age for medicare, a top house democrat monday warned the white house to tread lightly. >> now that would save a lot of money for the federal government and look good on the balance sheet but he's not going to vote for it and i'm not going to vote for it. >> reporter: this is a big part of the story to come. if there's a deal that's a huge break-through but lawmakers still have to vote for it and democrats oppose large structural cuts to medicare and most republicans oppose income tax rates on the so-called wealthy. that's why lawmakers were told not to make big fiscal travel plans because the crisis could go to new year's eve. >> political director john dickerson joins us. how does a unionized state like michigan become a right to work state and what does it say about the politics of the country today? >> well, it becomes a right to work state by having a legislature that's dominated by republicans, and this is, it's extraordinary. we just had an electio
barak obama strike any deal with the republicans? the biggest opportunity was when they were enacting the entitlement, affordable care act, obamacare, rolled back to the 1960s when lyndon johnson was enacting medicare and medicaid and he negotiated with republicans and he had republican support. barak obama got zero votes for obamacare and that's unprecedented. then you come to the summer of 2011, you had the big super committee over deficit reduction. basically trying to negotiate the same thing they are now and that collapsed. it seems to me that barak obama is someone a president, surprisingly enough, who just does not know how to negotiate a political deal with the other side. >> steve: you're absolutely right. he doesn't want to make a deal. he's less monty burns from the simpsons where he's trying to extract and exact political pain on the republicans. >> i think it's a combination of arrogance. he may be the most arrogant person who ever sat in the oval office. a combination of that and inexperience and if you put those two combinations together, you get someone who is so confi
think the media swoons over president obama? can you give examples? >> an enormous amount. the situation going on with benghazi, the attack on the consulate there. if this had been george bush and a republican, the way candy crowley asserted herself to jump to the president's defense in the second debate with mitt romney was so inappropriate it went beyond the pale. i really do not believe if that was a republican recumbent, candy crowley would have jumped in like that. going back to the 2008 campaign, the president's relationship with the reverend who was his reverence for 20 years, obama belonged to his church. he had sermon that he gave. he baptized his children, he married and presided over the marriage between president obama and michelle obama, and that got attention by the mainstream media. these were awful sermons, saying america deserve what they got from 9/11. i will not repeat a lot of the awful things the reverend said. also, really, the president's failed record in his first term. the media did not hold the president accountable when he said, if i cannot get the job done in
't work. >> president obama telling bloomberg tv the republicans' math just doesn't work. of course, the gop is delivering the same message about the white house plan. today, a bipartisan group of governors went to the white house and capitol hill, urging both sides to make a deal. two of those governors join me now. governor gary herbert of utah and jack markell of delaware, chair of the national governors association. welcome to you both. interesting day for you because you managed to talk to the president and john boehner, when they can't be bothered to talk to each other. so what did you discover? let me start with you, governor herbert. what was your take on the two meetings? >> well, we were honored to be invited. i think too many times, the states and governors have been overlooked and underappreciated and almost a second thought when it comes to some policies made so i applaud jack's leadership in getting us together in a bipartisan way through the national governors association. i thought we were well received. i think the president and the speaker and majority leader was a
it for this edition. tomorrow we have a big show. congresswoman rogers, chair of the house republican conference, former obama foreign policy adviser, former pentagon advis r adviser, "the washington post" eugene robinson and oliver stone. tamron hall is right here. >> hey there, andrea. great to be in d.c. an it is your town. we'll talk about when's happening. another town, michigan. in fact, the state of michigan, of course, following the breaking news. the state legislature just gave final approval to right to work bills despite a massive turnout from protesters. this event is still going on. i'll talk with michigan congressman levin and the focus of the "news nation" gut check. should alor concede on things like right to work in favor of collective bargaining? that's a big question we're posing to you. just in the couple of hours, house speaker john boehner slammed the president saying americans are wondering when the president will get serious when wh it comes to the fiscal cliff talks. meanwhile, nbc's first read team says any deal reached should be a fragile one or could be. "news nation"
by republicans in ohio. immediately after that, the democrats and the obama for america campaign filed petitions to put it up to a referendum. they got enough petitions come and then eventually the legislature repealed it at my suggestion because it was becoming too -- the rhetoric was heated and we needed to start over and avoided the cost of the referendum. that's what happened during the course of the battle trying to find the balance between access and accuracy in balancing that reform and a high of. we had no reform, the damage was done. a set of the partisan feelings that continued through 2012 and even spawned if there was one moment of bipartisan agreement we did pass in the military voter bill during that process it had an amendment to shut down the early voting during the saturday, sunday and monday before the election so that the board of elections would have time to accommodate all of the early votes since the expected to do cash. they passed on a unanimous basis, and eventually it blew up and became the first of the eight federal lawsuits in ohio said even the moments of bipartisan
driven, results oriented. they are looking for compromise in washington. is it a pro-obama group or republican? it is really its own group. host: who are some of the names people might recognize, the ceo's of which companies? guest: the efforts the white house has made this year is much larger and much more effective than it was last year. they are bringing in more people with business ford but with a lot of other organizations as well. the president spoke with financial services leaders and has brought in two groups of big-name ceos. -- the president has spoken with business forward. of out of 10 per ceo's small companies. -- tend to be ceo's of small companies. smaller investors, smaller business owners. host: what are the members concerns with the fiscal cliff stocks? guest: for most small-business owners and senior executives at big companies, the fear is that going over the cliff, even on a technical term, will increase their borrowing costs and will put our economic recovery at risk. most business leaders point to simpson-bowles. they understand that we have to raise reven
. the legislature was controlled by republicans in ohio and immediately after that, the democrats for obama for america campaign filed petitions to put up to a referendum and got enough petitions and eventually, the republican legislature repealed it at my suggestion because it was becoming - the rhetoric was too heated and the need to start over and avoid the cost of the referendum. that is what happened during the course of the year-long battle of trying to find the battle -- balance between access and accuracy in ohio. eventually, we had no reform. the damage was done. it set off a partisan flames that continued through 2012 and even -- if there was one moment a bipartisan agreement, we did pass that military voter bill during that process that had an amendment that shut down early voting during the saturday, sunday, and monday before the elections of the board of elections would have time to accommodate all of the early votes they expected to be cast. it passed on a unanimous basis and eventually it blow up and became the first of life -- a federal lawsuit weeks. in ohio. even our momen
. >>> president obama in detroit on monday accused the republicans of playing politics. >> you know, these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with mrekz. >> we're going live to lansing, michigan, with the governor, rick snyder. the uaw president and jesse jack.
directly to president obama. is there anything you can do at this point to stop it? >> i got to tell you the people are outraged not only is this anti-worker and anti-family, the way these republicans are going about it is anti-american. introducing it in a lame duck session at the 11th hour, locking people out of the capitol literally, that's what they did last week and tried to shut off my microphone. it is anti-american the way they're going about this and the reason there are so many people at the capitol today is because they're mad at heck and not going to take it anymore. there were 8,000 people at the capitol before i even got my kids off to school this morning. >> the legislation doesn't prevent anybody from joining a union so they'd argue what is the problem. if unions are strong people will join them and it will work out. >> they're saying this is more freedom for union members to have a choice. well that's just baloney. if they believe this, if they really believed in that, that it was good public policy, why are they trying not to have any hearings? why are they having an en
by republicans. and this is pretty much inevitable. the labor movement has already lost these fights everywhere else. still, president obama who was making a preplanned stop at a uaw representative factory in the detroit suburbs couldn't escape commenting on the fight so he weighed in yesterday denouncing the proposed new law. >> what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> schneider made this counterargument. >> michigan workers are hard-working people. and shouldn't they be able to make the choice they see value in the union and, again, hopefully make the unions more accountable and work harder to make sure they're showing workers the value proposition is why they should pay. >> and now you just heard the message as to why labor usually uses these battles over so-called right to work legislation. it is that word choice. republicans a
. >> it was widely assumed among republicans that president obama and democrats back toward to avoid it. that was the common goal, or so we thought. over the past couple of weeks, and has become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seemed perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that is why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. that explains why the president is stubbornly insisting on raising tax rates when he himself said just last year that you raised more revenue from capping deductions than closing loopholes. this is not about the deficit for them, or balance. it's about an ideological campaign that most americans thought would have ended on november 6. the president said timothy geithner of beer with a proposal -- up here with a proposal that was more a provocation than a proposal, to be perfectly frank about it. it was a message that the president really does not want to deal at all. today not a single senate democrat has come forward to su
, too. they kept a pretty tight lid on them. one of them by president obama, that was yesterday, then a counteroffer by the speaker. that was today. all of this as the president tells abc news tonight that he is confident that republicans will not hold middle class tax cuts hostage. so there's a lot of news that's all of a sudden coming out. after some relative quiet. our white house correspondent dan lothian is on the case and joins me now by telephone, because you've been working your sources. take me into the conversation. all of this breaking late today and it sounds good. it sounds at least like there's some movement, dan. >> reporter: that's right. that's always been the issue, because as you know, it was just last week we were talking about the fact that there were no talks ongoing, not even behind the scenes, and now these latest developments and as you pointed out, we didn't even know the white house had submitted another offer yesterday but confirmation coming from a senior administration official that in fact, the white house did submit that offer yesterday to house r
on with this fiscal cliff. it's time to pay. it's not the republican party's fault. obama has been in office four years. he has doubled to the trillions of dollars in debt. host: are you a tea party supporter? caller: i'm not affiliated with the tea party, but i am tired of hearing them blame it, because i see the hard-working generation that are in their 60s that paid in and they are saying enough is enough, we are tired of you taking it out of our wallets. we are tired of crazy liberal laws being shoved down our throats. our rights are being taken away from us day after day and we are like zombies in this country. host: sumter, south carolina, william, a democrat. we're listening to your thoughts this morning on open phones. caller: i am a new listener and a veteran. i am trying to figure out what's going on. when people see that the fiscal cliff and all this other stuff i am trying to understand, how it came about, it was from all the money being spent on war. and i wanted to mention about the veterans. we are the backbone of this country in a sense. that's what they need to focus on more. hos
on newt gingrich and put the republicans in retreat, in terms of card playing, president obama has some cards that he can basically lay this off and perhaps it will fall to the blame -- fall on the republicans. that's why we think it could drift over the cliff. >> we'll see. i know you've been a champion of apple all year. we're going to ask you on the countdown if you'd still buy apple at these lower levels. that's still to come later. thank you, my friend. before we go to commercial here, some sad news for the business world and our family here at cnbc. saul steinberg, the father of our maria bartiromo, died earlier today at the age of 73. he was best known for launching a string of takeovers back in the 1980s. he was also an avid art collector and a major benefactor at the wharton school of business at the university of pennsylvania. he leaves behind a wife and five children, including maria's husband, our johnathan steinberg. our sincerest condolences to his family and friends and my dear friend maria, who is obviously with the family. saul steinberg, dead at the age of 73. there is
on immigration. tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the higher number of women increases the chances. we will see. >> i saw the women here smiling. we were talking about how collaborative they were. the guys, not so much. >> we don't smile. i agree. the more women the better. i'm agreeing with you. can i say nothing? i said the more women, the better. i'm agreeing with you. the more women, the less self destructive egos and getting to a deal. do you have a problem with that. >> no,i don't. >> go with it. i give up. >> all right. still ahead, hollywood mogul joins us on set and author sebastian younger will be here. more morning joe in a moment. ♪ for ove
-called fiscal cliff, it was widely assumed by republicans that obama and democrats badly wanted to avoid it. that was the premise that any possible agreement hedged on. that was the common goal, or so we thought. of the past couple of weeks, it has become increasingly clear to many of us that we were simply wrong about that. incredibly, many top democrats including the president seemed part perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that is why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies and actually negotiating a deal. it explains why the president is now stubbornly insisting on raising tax rates when he himself said just last year that you could raise more revenue from capping deductions and closing loopholes. them or balance. it's about an ideological campaign that most americans thought would have ended on november 6, and that's also why the president sent secretary geithner up here last week with a proposal so completely ridiculous it wouldn't have passed the house, as i indicated earlier, if nancy pelosi were still speaker. it was more of a provocation than a proposal, to be
ourselves today. republicans stand ready to work with president obama for a balanced and bipartisan solution. so far, no evidence of that. let's create a long-term solution that does not burden individuals and gives businesses optimism to go forward and invest in the american economy. then the economy can grow for all citizens. i look forward to the testimony of our witnesses. >> thank you. i will introduce our two witnesses. dr. zandi is the chief economist at moody's analytics. he looks at macro racquets and -- macro economics and public policy. he is the influential source of policymakers and businesses and journalists. recently he published a report assessing the challenges of approaching the fiscal cliff and the most effective way to achieve long-term, fiscal stability. he received his phd from the university of pennsylvania. that will be a recurring theme in these introductions. [laughter] dr. zandi, thank you for being here. dr. hassett is the director and senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. he holds a phd from the university of pennsylvania. his research includes the
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